Prosecutor Gap Moe and tsundere are the two that I remember off the top of my head. He didn't care for either one of them even though I felt like they fit.
[ shrugs. ]
...and that's something particularly special and you're in an unquietly interesting situation so it's not like I can ask you to run around and do things like I would with other people.
They were needed to pay the fare for a trip. I was trying to see if we could barter for passage instead, but a few of the others made the exchange and I wasn't about to be left behind. You can tell us all about how it was a bad idea at a later juncture, but as it is we already did have to use Ulrika's alchemy to pay for passage back.
[ so. alchemy. ]
What was the importance of those coins, precisely?
An inadequate seeming gift for pulling all of us into this, but I'm sure you've heard that often enough by now. [ ... ] Boons. Just the abilities denoted by the feathers, or something else?
More importantly, is this a problem?
[ like, apparently their current status is unprecedented on multiple levels for the watchers, but. ]
[ me like 'is someone going to ask about their coins. oh well, yolo.' ]
I'm not expecting to be able to do every step of a complicated multi-stage synthesis like making gold from the ground up, if that's what you're asking.
There's a couple different spreads I could use for that, yes, but generally most people have things on their mind they want clarified. I'm not saying you need to voice one, though.
[ hmm. what would a tarot reading for rameel look like, actually. they're certainly the most... something, of the watchers. ]
So, just a general reading for the near future then?
Saying that just makes me think my current trend of drawing swords in unfavorable positions will continue.
[ rameel do you want to talk about something. but he sighs, laying out five cards face down in what looks to be a square pattern, with the last card placed at the center between all of them. top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right, and the one they all center around. he points them out in order: ]
Present, influences, challenges, outcome, unifying theme. We'll start with the present first.
[ with that, he'll flip the one in the upper left. queen of cups, huh. hm. that's interesting, but he can see it, he guesses. ]
[ tsurumaru has the right idea. and roxis, for all his flaws, can't call fatalism one of them. but anyway. ]
Cups are intuition and emotion, and queens are the court cards that have come into themselves regarding whatever the suit is supposed to represent, though in a more supportive way than the kings.
[ in a way it's rather fitting for the watchers, who can't really act directly- just nurture and influence things in the rest of them. ]
The Queen of Cups is an intuitive figure in tune with the feelings of themselves and others, and in general the suit can suggest paying more attention to your emotions rather than getting bogged down by logic. Since it's your present, it could simply be commentary on your current position, or it could be a suggestion to look inward and remember to trust your intuition more.
[ "your feelings matter" etc etc. let's flip card number 2 in the upper right: influences. Two of Pentacles ...
deadpan: ]
Would you say you're doing a bit of a balancing act right now, in the way that you attend to your duties?
[ there's also the less surface read, where it might be that the balance needed is in self versus others, feelings vs pragmatism... it isn't like he knows rameel. ]
[ there's a lot of ways to interpret 'balance' so hmmmm. in tandem with the queen it might just be a reaffirmation to look inward more, balance logic and feeling, but...
And there are the swords... [ muttered. ] It would figure they'd come up in a challenge position when this started with the Queen of Cups. Swords are the suit of the mind, so this follows. In any case, eight of swords as obstacle or challenge feels a little on the nose...
You perhaps feel trapped and restricted by your current situation, but it's something you can do something about- you just ... haven't, for some reason or another. You might be overthinking things. You might be letting logic take too much of a role; you might simply be wary of the consequences of taking action rashly. Whatever the case, the eight of swords suggests a feeling of powerlessness, that you can't do anything because you gave that authority over to something else, but there is a way out if you just find or take it.
[ just a matter of perspective, and of making use of what you have available to you. ]
I could have gone on a lot longer about the negative implications of the eight of swords, but given that a lot of it would be rehashing the obvious, why don't we just move on.
[ the watchers know their hands are tied. that isn't news. the reminder that they still have at least some agency despite having been tricked into whatever contract they have with the angels, well, the temporals shouldn't need that either, considering weren't they the ones talking about how they had to do something after one of the trials?
me crying into my hands tbh because I'm doing the blindest read and I don't even have the notes I took a bit ago when I first did it so I'm just piecemealing the surface read. all of this is too on the nose, help I'm doing this wrong.
fourth card, outcome, is this: Queen of Swords which... is interesting. ]
The Queen of Cups is your present, and the Queen of Swords is apparently your future. Perhaps I'll amend my impressions of the Queen of Cups to possibly saying that while you're focused on everyone's feelings right now, eventually that balance will have to swing back. She's also a guiding figure- but this time more decisive and independent, possessed of keen judgment, with the ability to cut straight to the heart of the matter rather than dancing around any given issue.
[ and again, swords, logic over emotion, focus more on unbiased thinking than... whatever the rest of this spread has been. maybe in the future rameel will hide behind less bullshit and be more serious...? still a supportive figure, though. not a king, either, not overt...
you know, why not just flip the last card right now. theme: Wheel of Fortune.
incredible. ]
i can almost promise you that this thread will age in Such a way
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel about being represented by Queens but I'm also not upset with it. The idea of me being a leader to anyone and people looking at me for guidance is a bit interesting.
[ come on mauyn. explain what the wheel of fortune means here. ]
Queens don't necessarily have to be women, you realize. Could just mean in your case that they prefer to be a more subtle influence rather than making waves directly. [ behind every great man a great woman etc etc. ] They do tend to be the most ... nurturing of the court cards, though.
[ which, again, dovetails interestingly with the role the watchers are forced into, where they can nudge and guide and support but not actually act, according to the rules they're under. ]
As a Watcher, aren't you supposed to be here for guidance if someone asks for it? [ in theory, anyway. but fine, the wheel of fortune. ]
... Change. The overall theme of this is change. It might not all necessarily be under your control- the wheel of fortune suggests the opposite, in fact, that change is going to happen whether you want it to or not, but it does encourage you to take the good with the bad, and seize whatever opportunities might appear to you as they crop up. It's up to you whether you let yourself get swept up in it or take hold of it decisively.
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Prosecutor Gap Moe and tsundere are the two that I remember off the top of my head. He didn't care for either one of them even though I felt like they fit.
[ shrugs. ]
...and that's something particularly special and you're in an unquietly interesting situation so it's not like I can ask you to run around and do things like I would with other people.
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[ all these characters this game just getting haunted by that word.
he doesn't seem entirely surprised by that, but: ]
Hm. So which is it, the fact that we're apparently soulless now, that we gave up our coins, or that we're 'exempt'? Or is it none of the above?
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...
...blinks. ]
You gave up your coins?
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[ so. alchemy. ]
What was the importance of those coins, precisely?
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They were given to you as gifts from your respected angelic side. And they also contained the ability for you to receive boons to us.
[ their voice may or may not sound a bit distant. ]
I never would have seen this one coming.
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An inadequate seeming gift for pulling all of us into this, but I'm sure you've heard that often enough by now. [ ... ] Boons. Just the abilities denoted by the feathers, or something else?
More importantly, is this a problem?
[ like, apparently their current status is unprecedented on multiple levels for the watchers, but. ]
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Probably not. It might end up being fine in the end.. Regardless! You want some of your abilities back, hm?
It's a baseline and the most basic version of what you're capable to do, correct?
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I'm not expecting to be able to do every step of a complicated multi-stage synthesis like making gold from the ground up, if that's what you're asking.
[ so. yes? ]
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also because i want to be cursed by mauyn's cards— ]
Entertain me. I've heard you're pretty good with those readings.
1/2
... You want a reading?
[ wait, good with them??? is this because he predicted his own death in w2. ]
2/2
What on?
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How about my outlook in the near future. I don't know how far you can look out but isn't there one of those "basic" spreads or something like that?
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[ hmm. what would a tarot reading for rameel look like, actually. they're certainly the most... something, of the watchers. ]
So, just a general reading for the near future then?
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Sure! Why not. I'd be interested in see what comes up for me. Maybe I'll get my just desserts.
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[ rameel do you want to talk about something. but he sighs, laying out five cards face down in what looks to be a square pattern, with the last card placed at the center between all of them. top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right, and the one they all center around. he points them out in order: ]
Present, influences, challenges, outcome, unifying theme. We'll start with the present first.
[ with that, he'll flip the one in the upper left. queen of cups, huh. hm. that's interesting, but he can see it, he guesses. ]
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[ they'll laugh about it even though it's not a laughing matter? also hey? queen of cups is a good card isn't it? they'll peer over. ]
Are we off to a good start?
i wanted to tag last night but apparently I fugue stated into bed after townhall
[ tsurumaru has the right idea. and roxis, for all his flaws, can't call fatalism one of them. but anyway. ]
Cups are intuition and emotion, and queens are the court cards that have come into themselves regarding whatever the suit is supposed to represent, though in a more supportive way than the kings.
[ in a way it's rather fitting for the watchers, who can't really act directly- just nurture and influence things in the rest of them. ]
The Queen of Cups is an intuitive figure in tune with the feelings of themselves and others, and in general the suit can suggest paying more attention to your emotions rather than getting bogged down by logic. Since it's your present, it could simply be commentary on your current position, or it could be a suggestion to look inward and remember to trust your intuition more.
[ "your feelings matter" etc etc. let's flip card number 2 in the upper right: influences. Two of Pentacles ...
deadpan: ]
Would you say you're doing a bit of a balancing act right now, in the way that you attend to your duties?
[ there's also the less surface read, where it might be that the balance needed is in self versus others, feelings vs pragmatism... it isn't like he knows rameel. ]
valid of you bc i passed the fuck out last night
[ and oh. the next card doesn't change their expression but they do have a bit of a laugh. ]
I mean, wouldn't that make sense if I was? I can't always be there for you all.
[ and rameel isn't going to give another inch because they just wanna see where this will go. ]
me checking the private discord server where i yote all my cards for this spread to reference
bottom left, challenges... Eight of Swords. ]
And there are the swords... [ muttered. ] It would figure they'd come up in a challenge position when this started with the Queen of Cups. Swords are the suit of the mind, so this follows. In any case, eight of swords as obstacle or challenge feels a little on the nose...
You perhaps feel trapped and restricted by your current situation, but it's something you can do something about- you just ... haven't, for some reason or another. You might be overthinking things. You might be letting logic take too much of a role; you might simply be wary of the consequences of taking action rashly. Whatever the case, the eight of swords suggests a feeling of powerlessness, that you can't do anything because you gave that authority over to something else, but there is a way out if you just find or take it.
[ just a matter of perspective, and of making use of what you have available to you. ]
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Oh. Oh now you have to keep going with this. I'm now fully invested in seeing where this will lead us.
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[ the watchers know their hands are tied. that isn't news. the reminder that they still have at least some agency despite having been tricked into whatever contract they have with the angels, well, the temporals shouldn't need that either, considering weren't they the ones talking about how they had to do something after one of the trials?
me crying into my hands tbh because I'm doing the blindest read and I don't even have the notes I took a bit ago when I first did it so I'm just piecemealing the surface read. all of this is too on the nose, help I'm doing this wrong.
fourth card, outcome, is this: Queen of Swords which... is interesting. ]
The Queen of Cups is your present, and the Queen of Swords is apparently your future. Perhaps I'll amend my impressions of the Queen of Cups to possibly saying that while you're focused on everyone's feelings right now, eventually that balance will have to swing back. She's also a guiding figure- but this time more decisive and independent, possessed of keen judgment, with the ability to cut straight to the heart of the matter rather than dancing around any given issue.
[ and again, swords, logic over emotion, focus more on unbiased thinking than... whatever the rest of this spread has been. maybe in the future rameel will hide behind less bullshit and be more serious...? still a supportive figure, though. not a king, either, not overt...
you know, why not just flip the last card right now. theme: Wheel of Fortune.
incredible. ]
i can almost promise you that this thread will age in Such a way
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel about being represented by Queens but I'm also not upset with it. The idea of me being a leader to anyone and people looking at me for guidance is a bit interesting.
[ come on mauyn. explain what the wheel of fortune means here. ]
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[ which, again, dovetails interestingly with the role the watchers are forced into, where they can nudge and guide and support but not actually act, according to the rules they're under. ]
As a Watcher, aren't you supposed to be here for guidance if someone asks for it? [ in theory, anyway. but fine, the wheel of fortune. ]
... Change. The overall theme of this is change. It might not all necessarily be under your control- the wheel of fortune suggests the opposite, in fact, that change is going to happen whether you want it to or not, but it does encourage you to take the good with the bad, and seize whatever opportunities might appear to you as they crop up. It's up to you whether you let yourself get swept up in it or take hold of it decisively.